Ramona Kindergarten Teacher Removes Pants During Recess

Patch file photo.
Patch file photo.

It is uncertain if a teacher who removed her pants while at James Duke Elementary School during recess will return to the classroom on Monday. The name of the educator has not been formally released.

10News reported that a grandparent of a student at the school said school officials claimed the teacher “suffered some sort of seizure.”

The news station said Ramona Unified School District Superintendent Robert Graeff confirmed the incident happened, but that “at no time were any students in danger.” And added that the teacher would not return until “she’s fit for duty.”

10News also reported that parents of children at the school received the following recorded message on their telephones:
"Good afternoon, James Dukes families and staff. This is Principal Harris and I am calling with an important message. I would like to take a moment to clarify details from an incident that happened in a secluded area of the campus during recess on Thursday. One of our female, primary grade teachers was battling illness where she became confused and disoriented, resulting in the staff member temporarily removing a piece of her clothing. This incident was not typical of her behavior and was only witnessed by a few students. The teacher received medical attention immediately and students remained calm at all times. Although a specific date is not yet certain, the teacher does plan to return to work once her medical needs are addressed satisfactorily. Please be assured that your students' safety, and the safety of the staff, is my first priority. Like you, I am proud to be a part of the Coyote pack and as always, I am available if you have any concerns."

Just.A.Concerned.Citizen February 03, 2014 at 10:42 AM
Did you guys read the tagline in the freeze-frame of the video? "...pants off...worried about cover up..." Ba whaaa whaaaa haaaa. OMG, that's got to be the best. BTW, you nailed it @Teri Graham.
M Workman February 03, 2014 at 11:22 AM
A BS headline on a BS story. Now that Patch has gone almost totally broke and removed any local reporting, this is the kind if crap we can expect. Crock of crap also to MaxMax. If you took the time to learn anything about this, you would be ashamed of yourself. If you don;t know EXACTLY what your're talking about, might be better to zip it.
Kris Blaszcak February 03, 2014 at 11:54 AM
I would think that this teacher wasn't the only adult on the playground full of children. And, I would think that this is an opportunity to talk to your children about this illness with compassion. The children will only continue to be freaked out if their parents and family reinforce those feelings.
Faith Halbert February 03, 2014 at 12:03 PM
I found the title to be offensive considering the teacher was ill. The tagline seems to portray the teacher as the equivalent to a predator, which is extremely wrong. Very disrespectful, Ramona Patch.
M Workman February 03, 2014 at 12:04 PM
And perhaps applaud this teacher for her dedication to her students while (for years) successfully battling on. She was NOT the only teacher out there and had the Wetters taken time to look in to this instead of crying "cover up," they may have saved some dignity. Their own included.
John Vollmar February 03, 2014 at 03:47 PM
Max Max. Your ignorance of mental health is mentally unhealthy. I am glad that everyone you've ever known is healthy and "normal" to your definition. This teacher deserves compassion and not derision. The rest of the staff should use this as a teachable moment...and how some people can lose control through NO FAULT of their own. To make the leap that this person, a hired teacher, would "walk around naked and try to have sex with themselves and each other" is beyond ludicrous. It makes one question YOU, Max Max...
Jane Tanaka MD February 03, 2014 at 06:26 PM
Am not a treating MD of this teacher. ... but based on information published, "Ramona kindergarten teacher has complex partial seizure during recess".... perhaps would have been more accurate. It would not have taken much for the tv news reporter, or any of the internet or newspaper reporters to have a neurologist comment on probable diagnosis based on symptoms.This is a neurological condition, not a psychiatric/mental health condition. Hopefully this is not the first symptom of a brain tumor. Compassion--yes. Judgement--no. Parents please educate your kids about this. (If the symptom had been of syncope,vomitting,angina, and the diagnosis had been that of a Myocardial Infarct, would the tv crew even driven up to Ramona? A seizure is just as much a medical event as a heart attack... and just as unforseeable.) There are elementary school children opining that those James Dukes kindergarten kids should sue the teacher and the school. Little kids dont know any better... they mimick the comments of adults.
John Vollmar February 03, 2014 at 07:32 PM
Amen Dr! Reason must win out here. Explain what happened to this dedicated teacher WITH the students. THAT is truly teaching our children!
tracy February 04, 2014 at 01:33 PM
I feel bad for the teacher if (as unbelievable as it sounds) had no control. But I don't think that teacher should be welcomed back. I would never teach my kids that it is OK for someone to inappropriately expose themselves no matter what condition they have.
M Workman February 04, 2014 at 02:40 PM
Tracy, I think we got that. Can I ask, do you have children at this school?
S February 05, 2014 at 08:21 PM
No one knew it was a kindergarten teacher until a licensed physician told everyone. Good job!
Max Max February 05, 2014 at 09:30 PM
The focus is on the welfare of the children. If this incident happened once it will happen again. Children have all the right in the world to make sure that the adults that they depend on remove this teacher so that it NEVER happens again. This is a school not a hospital, or convalescent center.
S February 05, 2014 at 09:45 PM
Good thing the old principal wasn't in charge...PS.....or their picture would have been plastered all over the place. That women was nothing but evil for a so called Christian. A devil in disguise. Anyone of authority in the school district should NEVER get involved in parents personal affairs. EVIL!
S February 05, 2014 at 09:46 PM
And I hope that haunts her forever!!!!
Ron Selkovitch February 06, 2014 at 01:49 PM
I wonder what a child is supposed to learn frm this tragedy. I hope it's not that we discard others when they suffer an unfortunate unavoidable situation, whether its either medical or economic. I do hope, instead that,as adults, they learn to show compassion to others. That's got to be as important a learning experience as reading writing and arithmetic. Anyhow, it's gratifying to read the mostly sensitive comments, with one or two unfortunate exceptions.
Max Max February 08, 2014 at 11:55 PM
I care more about the welfare of innocent children then I do about people who have medical problems that cause them to behave irrationally and show children their sexual organs and buttocks.
M Workman February 10, 2014 at 11:52 AM
Unfortunate you have such a narrow view. Perhaps if you had a fact or two right it might help. Ah, doubt it.
Max Max February 11, 2014 at 07:24 PM
The fact is children need to be protected from adults exposing themselves on school grounds. A disoriented, naked from the bottom down adult and kindergarten children being safe under her supervision just don't go together.
Max Max February 11, 2014 at 07:25 PM
If it would have involved one of my children my mind would have been even narrower focusing on how my child felt about it and about the school officials who put these person in that position to begin with.
Ron Selkovitch February 12, 2014 at 11:51 AM
Max, how a child feels depends upon how you teach them. I hope that if I had children in that situation, they would be concerned about the welfare of their teacher. The concern doesn't have to be mutually exclusive. You can have caring feelings about both the teacher and the children.
Max Max February 17, 2014 at 07:59 AM
It's a teachers responsibility to take care of their health not a students. If a teacher can't take care of them-self they have no business taking care of helpless children.
John Vollmar February 20, 2014 at 02:15 PM
Max. You are idiot and obviously have no children. Thank God.
Whisky Foxtrot February 24, 2014 at 09:38 AM
So, Max thinks we should only hire teachers who have no chance of ever having any kind of sudden-onset medical/neurological condition? Did this really put the kids in "danger?" I doubt it.
VoiceInThe Desert February 24, 2014 at 11:40 AM
Whiskey. Too funny! You used the words "Max thinks" in the same sentence.....Not sure that's POSSIBLE.
tracy February 24, 2014 at 01:39 PM
Omg, Max has concern for the protection of the kids. What a horrible guy! So are the rest of you suffering from a medical condition that causes you to start acting like a child and calling names. Have some self control. Oh, sounds like you guys dont believe in that. What happened, happened. Should there be a risk of it recurring?! I think not! Were the kids in danger that time? Maybe not. So what, wait till next time?
Just.A.Concerned.Citizen February 24, 2014 at 02:16 PM
Voice, you're right! He's a believer, not a thinker! Looks like tracy is, too. So, let's legislate and regulate all possible forms of medical illness so that no one, anywhere, at any time should be allowed in public, especially around children, in the remotest possible chance that they may have a medical condition that may render them incapable of perfectly rational and coherent action or thought. That way Max and tracy (and their children) will be safe from anyone who may have asthma, a food allergy, diabetes, epilepsy, or PMS among so many, many more maladies.
VoiceInThe Desert February 24, 2014 at 03:43 PM
VoiceInThe Desert February 24, 2014 at 03:45 PM
And Tracy.....where was the name-calling? (didn't think so!)
John Vollmar February 28, 2014 at 06:06 PM
It's over Tracy. You lost. Reason won. Face it.
Max Max March 09, 2014 at 10:55 PM
When it comes to helpless children no one can be to careful. There is no way to prove this woman had a seizure unless she had electrodes attached to her head and was being monitored during the incident. How many female teachers are going to rape our innocent underage sons and force them into being fathers before something is done? If this woman has a problem that causes her to be demented and expose her sexual organs then she has no business being around children. Lots of people have medical problems heart attacks, allergies, diabetes but it does not cause them to remove their clothing and subject innocent children to their sexual organs. There is no damn way if someone is going to take leave of their senses and expose themselves that children could be safe. She has a problem that prevents her from being safe around children. I only care about how the children feel about what this teacher subjected them to. The teacher is a grown woman and can deal with her own issues. PERIOD!


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