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Planning Board Supports Grant Funding for New Signal

A light at the intersection of 10th and H Streets is being requested by the community planning group.

Despite resistance from some residents, the planning group approved the request for grant funding for a new light at 10th and H Streets at the September public meeting last week at the library.

Ramona resident and planning group candidate Jim Cooper addressed the planning group at the meeting, telling the panel that the intersection is "confusing" to him and seemingly unnecessary.

Cooper said that he would like studies for the the public to read about the danger of the intersection and why it needs a signal.

"I shouldn't have to come to you in person [to request this information]," Cooper said.

Planning board member Carl Hickman, who works for the county, was able to shed some light on the topic for Cooper.

"This intersection ranks high on the county's priority list," Hickman said. "All locations are competing for funding."

Hickman said that in the past five years, the intersection at 10th and H Streets has seen 33 collisions, making it one of the intersections in the county that is high on the list for funding.

Group chair Jim Piva said even the fire department has put in a request for a light.

"They think it's a risk as well," he said.

Dennis Sprong motioned to approve a letter sent back in June to support an HSIP grant funding request for signalization at the intersection. Chad Anderson seconded the motion.

The item was passed 10-1, with Kevin Wallace opposing. Board members Chris Anderson, Paul Stykel, Bob Hailey, Matt Deskovick and Angus Tobiason were absent.

Donald Davis September 11, 2012 at 01:17 PM
The fire department has and is having difficulty pulling out onto San Vicente when responding to emergency incidents. Delays of up to one to two minutes and people do not slow down when they see the red lights. There are already warning lights, but either they do not see them or just ignor them. There has been some close calls as the fire engine and the ambulance pull out, again because people are driving too fast. As yes, there has been several accidents at this intersection!
Joe Minervini September 11, 2012 at 01:30 PM
ANOTHER BIG MISTAKE BY OUR PLANNING GROUP: This new traffic signal will make 4 signals within a less than half mile stretch of 10th St.: 1) 10th & Main, 2) 10th & D, 3)10th & H and 4) 10th & 11th. What the he--, is this downtown San Diego or is it our beloved Ramona ?? What about our little rural town ? We've really got to vote for new people on our Ramona Community Planning Group this November. OUT WITH THE INCUMBENTS, IN WITH THE NEW CANDIDATES...(Myers, Cooper, Maxim, DaSilva) THIS NOVEMBER. Joe Minervini, Patriot and Ramonan
Joe Minervini September 11, 2012 at 01:36 PM
Donald, If you are saying people don't stop for the big fire truck with its lights flashing then I say its time for the Sheriff's to give out some tickets. Also, the fire dept. can put 2 men out on 10th to insure the traffic stops. NO MORE TRAFFIC SIGNALS FOR RAMONA.....PERIOD. Joe Minervini
KT September 11, 2012 at 01:58 PM
Joe, Ramona is no longer a "little rural town", like it or not. This intersection is one of the most dangerous in Ramona. There have been way too many accidents here already. I would rather see another signal than another fatality.
Catryna White September 11, 2012 at 03:49 PM
The intersection is big enough for a roundie round. Why not do that instead of another dreaded light.
RMS September 11, 2012 at 03:56 PM
Well put.
Joe Minervini September 11, 2012 at 04:22 PM
KT, Nobody wants to see another fatality anywhere. But one has to admit, we cannot protect all the careless drivers in San Diego County. Perhaps you forgot the potentially fatal accident that just happened at 10th & 11th a few days ago; there IS a traffic signal at 10 & 11th.. The placement of a traffic signal doesn't ;mean all future accidents will be eliminated. All this unwarranted signal will do will be to slow us down in our ability to have free movement. As for Ramona no longer being a "little rural town," I disagree, and I will continue fighting to keep it a "little rural town"....and there are thousands of Ramona residents that feel the way I do. My name is Joe Minervini and I'm in the phone book.....what's your's ?
Cryptoclearance September 11, 2012 at 05:55 PM
Why were so many "absent" from the planning board meeting???
Guest September 11, 2012 at 06:21 PM
Mr. Minivan, It is apparent you do not understand the community of Ramona or how fire stations operate. Fireman are not traffic cops and there will never be enough fireman to have two extra guys standing around directing traffic? Think about it, with minimum staffing you have to have the guys on the truck ... did you expect the paramedics to wait while the truck leaves the station? When literally seconds count towards saving lives, you are suggesting that it is the fireman's responsibility to clean up your poor traffic planning. Is a traffic light really worth someones life? Did you even ask the Fire Department any questions? Let's be honest, your brilliant idea is just silly talk? I am guessing that is why no one takes the planning commission seriously. Please do some small amount of research before you waste the communities time and money.
Guest September 11, 2012 at 06:31 PM
Why were so many "absent" from the planning board meeting??? Because of the curent make up and leadership at the board, no one at the County is taking us seriously. We are only advisory and the county does not view us as professional. Look at the last several big projects in Ramona, the head trauma facility, solar farm, cummings ranch ...etc. The board takes a position so some of the board can get thier name in the paper and the County rolls thier eyes at us and then they just do what they want. THE WHOLE THING IS A SCAM SO THAT THE COUNTY CAN PRETEND TO CARE AND THEN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.
C.C. Langley September 11, 2012 at 07:28 PM
If the planning group would make some decisions that would actually benefit Ramona instead of themselves, then maybe the county would take'em seriouse. The big projects you talked about, the county heard their case and ruled, simply because the planning board looks at the individual and if their not tied into the fabric of old families that run Ramona then you won't get nothing passed. Its that simple.
M A Leon September 11, 2012 at 11:32 PM
Yes this intersection is very dangerous,I live near there and have seen numerous accidents.
Joe Minervini September 12, 2012 at 01:46 AM
Dear "Guest," I do not respond to people that are spineless and wish to remain nameless. How clueless is someone like you that could not figure out that one or two of the fireman on the truck could quiclky get out, stop the traffic then jump back on the truck....take off and maybe be only a few seconds behind. All you want to do is to say a few silly things, cover your behind and run. As for you calling me "Mr. Minivan," that boils my blood and my fine American/Italian heritage. Spineless "Guest", my name is Joe Minervini and if you have the courage, the intellect, the spine to debate this topic of the traffic signal or anything you want to debate about my desire to keep a Rural Ramona, call me, my number is 760/ 787-5763. Whats your's ? I'll call you. I refuse to debate issues to a faceless person. Joe p.s.; At least Dave Patterson puts his name after his pen.
Donald Davis September 12, 2012 at 03:40 AM
Mr. Minervini, You obviously do not have a clue as to the operations of a fire department. We only HAVE two personnel on the fire engine. I think you need to observe what these people are talking about.
Joe Minervini September 12, 2012 at 01:10 PM
Donald, You obviously have no clue that there is normally more than 2 fireman/paramedics in the firehouse. Donald, we are getting no where with this; I may not be a fireman but I know there shouldn't be a new traffic signal built at H St. Maybe a school crosswalk for the pedestrians, but no traffic signal that will delay commuters and local traffic. I am signing off this matter.....unless you or "Guest" wish to debate this signal issue further, in public and face to face. The corner of 10th and H St. would be a good place to meet. Joe Minervini
Penny King September 12, 2012 at 03:52 PM
Mr. Minervini You obviously do NOT know who Don Davis is. I do. He's a Captain with Cal Fire! He knows EXACTLY what he's talking about, on ALL levels! I disagree with a signal light at 10th & H for the very same reasons Don disagrees. Unless ALL lights are synchronized to the letter, it would be next to impossible for fire apparatus to get out of the station. If I call 9-1-1 for a medical emergency, the LAST thing I was is medics being held up because they couldn't get out of the station! A signal at Ramona St & Hanson Ln makes much more sense. As for the 'Rural town' remark, this town hasn't been 'Rural' in 20 years or more. I know. I lived here when the population was 5,000 and everyone knew everyone.Those days are LONG gone.
Penny King September 12, 2012 at 04:29 PM
Don, apparently I misread your opinion on the light at 10th & H. My apologizies. But I still disagree that a light would make things safer there unless ALL lights were synchronized to the 'T'. Only then do I believe a light could be beneficial. Regards, Penny

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